Game Thread ** Iowa @ Rutgers - Saturday 9/24 11 am - ESPN2 **

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  1. Hawk24

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    He didn't say that. He said, "not really" when asked if injury was limiting Wadley's carries....he didn't say "no." Which tells me it was part of the reason, but not the only one. In other words, as Morehouse wrote, "A sore knee AND a condensed playbook in a tight game."
     
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    "Condensed" playbook. Someone explain the rationale, por favor.
     
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    Plus- I'm sure KF is not thinking of Gus when he doesn't think it's a good idea to let everyone know that a huge part of their running game plan is banged up and could be a limited part of their game plan the next game or so.
     
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    I read it to mean a condensed number of plays, and that Wadley was inexplicably only part of the game plan if they got to run a bunch more plays. It's inane, IMO, but it seems to be the defense.
     
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    Poor pass blocking with banged up offensive line, banged up CJ, banged up Wadley. It really isn't that hard
     
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    This is a better point, but has to be balanced against how Wadley actually looked on his 3-4 carries.
     
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    It seems like KF is saying that it's a no-brainer. Close game...condensed playbook. Common sense seems to dictate that maybe a close game is when you should go ahead and open up the playbook.
     
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    Daniels was a mess in pass pro too.
     
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    In very few conceivable scenarios does Daniels as bell cow give Iowa the best chance to win, IMO. The staff seems to disagree in both word and deed. Ultimately, it's as simple as that.
     
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    You mean the 3-4 carries early in the game and none after early in 3rd qtr. Sure I suppose KF and GD could totally flip what they have done the first 2 and 1/2 games and just turned off the Wadley spigot early in the 3rd just to troll you and end up losing to an FCS school.....cmon Gus, listen to yourself
     
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    Without Wadley as an option (assuming they didn't want to get him more banged up), who do you think is a better option?
     
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    None of this should surprise anyone. The coaching staff was very open as far back as Spring that they were desperate to make Leshun Daniels the featured back, so that appears to be the exact direction they took.
     
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    The assumption is questionable, but they need to get Akinrobade ready to go if Wadley truly can't go.

    Daniels is bad in difficult games where backs need to make their own yardage. He's proven it repeatedly.
     
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    Don't read in that I feel Daniels is the option that should be featured- I'm troubled that they didn't use Mitchell more in both running and passing out of the backfield to pressure their LBs and not let them cement their concentration on the running game. Their offensive imagination is lacking, especially last weekend.
     
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    You're interpreting it all wrong, jabs.
     
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    Yeah, it would have helped to throw a couple more TD passes wish they would have thought about that
     
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    Wadley could barely get off the field in the second half on Saturday.

    Of even greater concern, Josie Jewell hyperextended his knee on that late QB draw. He could barely move on those last 3-4 plays. I won't be surprised if he is out of the lineup Saturday.
     
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    Would have helped, but trying to get a first down with the last possession would have been nice too.
     
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    Yeah it's not surprising to me at all, but it is still frustrating as hell.
     
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    What? He loved fine after that and made two tackles and jumped to try to block the final field goal.
     
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    I wish that people would quit using the phrase "por favor." You watched Spanglish. It doesn't make you sound smart.
     
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    His last play was at 5:42 in the 3rd quarter and he looked fine and ran off fine.
     
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    Lol. The coaches love them some LeShun. You must embrace that truth before you can form an opinion on it.
     
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    Now Mitchell, he's hurt.
     
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    Bring it in, boyz. The sting of that last loss will remain all season. The schedule over the next few weeks will allow us to heal up and grow before the real tough games begin. I liken Rutgers in the Big Ten to Ramsay Bolton in Winterfell. Neither one belongs there and everyone knows that. Iowa is the one true king in the North and I think we wake up and get back to business this week with a giant ass kicking. 45-17 Iowa.
     
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    It will probably take a string of wins through Wisconsin for me to return from my funk on the fringe of the fan base huddle.
     
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    * West
     
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    It was a GoT reference.

    It was bad and I feel bad.
     
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    Yeah, I don't really think so. They get Northwestern and then @Minnesota after this week.
     
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    A NW team that will likely be 1-3 and 0-1 in the Big 10 with it's back against the wall to save their season.
     
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    Was the playbook condensed due to the injuries on Oline?

    Any well, if the Oline is healthy and Wadley is better, I suspect we'll see a better performance this weekend.
     
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    Wait, whut, ...oh that was from AZ.

    I thought the Eeyore comment was actually about Kirk.
     
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    If this happens, it will be absolute proof that we have Old Kirk back
     
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    Alright, folks, it's Wednesday afternoon. Time to be positive until the Hawks give me a reason to be unpositive again.

    Iowa 31-10
     
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    flush it!
     
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    Or, that the team isn't that good.
     
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    An unhealthy & immobile CJ makes Iowa very mediocre.

    Iowa 22
    Rutgers 21
     
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    Especially with Wadley relegated to touches on already successful drives...
     
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    Hope Iowa can jump on them early and Stanley gets extended play in the 4th quarter
     
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    Such bizarre use/non-use of personnel.
     
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    What's Mitchell's injury and prognosis?
     
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    No reason to believe it's a doghouse situation for Wadley, but it's fairly clear that the staff views LeShun as the fastball, and you always look to establish your fastball before showing your breaking stuff. So, when things are going well, I expect a nice balance, when they aren't, I expect them to keep plowing forward with LeShun.

    That being said, if his long run isn't called back, we are all feeling pretty good about the Haws this week.
     
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    CJ unhealthy and immobile is still better than pretty much any QB in the I am a giant douche. He was not as sharp as normal last Saturday, but still played really well for the most part.
     
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    This is correct, but so fucking stupid. It will hurt us in every big game we play, in between okay to nice LeShun performances vs bad opponents, which serve to further embolden the staff in its approach.

    I hoped he wasn't, but @douglasbader was so RATT on this call.
     
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    Tomorrow at this time I better be consuming a Yuengling........
     
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    Yuengling reminds me of Coors in the 70s. Because its availability is limited people think it's better than what it really is
     
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