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I'm wondering if the call was reviewable? I'm assuming it's not in regards to listening for the timeout call...but since they called a jump...is it even reviewable for the foot oob?
I've been looking for an answer to the question of whether stepping OOB is reviewable, but haven't found an answer yet. I know they can use replay for at least the following purposes: (1) to determine which player committed a foul that was called and which player should be shooting FT's, (2) to determine whether a flagrant foul should be called, (3) to determine whether there was a shot clock violation, (4) to determine whether a shooter's feet were behind the three point line, and (5) to determine which team last touched a ball that went out of bounds in the last two minutes of play. You would think that stepping on the OOB line should also be reviewable, as it is in football. A stepping-OOB call is similar the the three-point line review, and is probably easier to review in many cases than a deflection call.

I'm pretty sure that whether a player was actually tied up or whether he was fouled in the process is not reviewable.
 
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This is the last thing I'm going to say about any of this I'm tired of arguing about it. There are two types of dads, 1 dad lets his son rant away and joins in the fray after the son takes a questionable third strike to end a game. The other dad shrugs his shoulders and tells his son "hey I've always told you if it's close you need to swing the bat." One of those dad's raises snowflakes and the other one doesn't.

Brady's dad did not raise a snowflake
Those are the two types of dads? lol
 

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I heard this morning that in Joks post game interview he said the coaches told the refs before hand that if they got that rebound they were calling time out. If that's true it's even worse. Fuck Minnesota.
Why would we automatically call a timeout in that situation? If the clock is running and the ball in in a good free throw shooters hands, why let them set up the press? Sure, call a time out if you get in trouble like Brady tried to do, but that should be plan B.
Pretty sure they wanted to call a timeout to get Jok in the game and Baer, Pemsl or Dom out. On the court at the time was Dom, Brady, bohannon, Pemsl and Baer. Baer had just missed a free throw after he got fouled. Baer got the steal and immediately passed to Brady. I don't think Brady called timeout right away because he was just standing there and Minnesota wasn't coming at him so he was wasting clock, he also probably assumed they were going to foul the shit out of him. Sure he could have called a timeout right away but what he did wasn't really wrong other than going to the corner.

The thing people are also overlooking is Baer tried to call a timeout with about 2 or 3 seconds left in regulation when bohannon got stuck trying to get the ball to Jok, but again the ref wasn't looking or listening at all.
 

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This is the last thing I'm going to say about any of this I'm tired of arguing about it. There are two types of dads, 1 dad lets his son rant away and joins in the fray after the son takes a questionable third strike to end a game. The other dad shrugs his shoulders and tells his son "hey I've always told you if it's close you need to swing the bat." One of those dad's raises snowflakes and the other one doesn't.

Brady's dad did not raise a snowflake
What does this even mean and what does it have to do with strategy and split second decisions in a basketball game?
 

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This is the last thing I'm going to say about any of this I'm tired of arguing about it. There are two types of dads, 1 dad lets his son rant away and joins in the fray after the son takes a questionable third strike to end a game. The other dad shrugs his shoulders and tells his son "hey I've always told you if it's close you need to swing the bat." One of those dad's raises snowflakes and the other one doesn't.

Brady's dad did not raise a snowflake
What does this even mean and what does it have to do with strategy and split second decisions in a basketball game?
Sorry, he's already given his last word...
 

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This is the last thing I'm going to say about any of this I'm tired of arguing about it. There are two types of dads, 1 dad lets his son rant away and joins in the fray after the son takes a questionable third strike to end a game. The other dad shrugs his shoulders and tells his son "hey I've always told you if it's close you need to swing the bat." One of those dad's raises snowflakes and the other one doesn't.

Brady's dad did not raise a snowflake
What does this even mean and what does it have to do with strategy and split second decisions in a basketball game?
Nothing. He used to box though, so yeah.
 

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There are two types of dads. Those who have no self control (think HaMo) and those that everyone hates (think shawnee).

I'll let you be the judge as to which type Brady's dad is.
 

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Finally found the rule book, and as I read it, a call (or no-call) on a player stepping out of bounds with possession of the ball is not reviewable. Held ball situations are also not reviewable, so it looks like replay wasn't an option on the Ellingson tie-up.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/BR17.pdf
 
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The fact that it isn't reviewable just means that the refs only fucked up twice on that play instead of three times.
 

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Maybe that faggot midget shouldn't have missed the call that was two feet away from him. Fuck he's already only a few feet from the ground.
 

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1976 said:
From what I saw, the refs let Iowa back in the game, so I just stopped watching. Didn't see the big ending, but it sounds like hok fans are being a bunch of cry babies as usual.
I love posts like this. This guy only shut it off so he could post on an Iowa State message board that he shut it off and prove he doesn't actually care about how Iowa does. The reality is he changed the channel but was looking at the sports app on his phone hitting refresh every minute to see what the score was, tensing up every time Iowa scored.
 

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Maybe that faggot midget shouldn't have missed the call that was two feet away from him. Fuck he's already only a few feet from the ground.
For the record he's apparently a homicide investigator in Pittsburgh, so he probably does hold grudges against coaches.
 
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1976 said:
From what I saw, the refs let Iowa back in the game, so I just stopped watching. Didn't see the big ending, but it sounds like hok fans are being a bunch of cry babies as usual.
I love posts like this. This guy only shut it off so he could post on an Iowa State message board that he shut it off and prove he doesn't actually care about how Iowa does. The reality is he changed the channel but was looking at the sports app on his phone hitting refresh every minute to see what the score was, tensing up every time Iowa scored.
Newsfash- He watched the whole game.
 

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Which teammate did bohannon collide with when we were up one under a couple minutes to play (maybe in first OT?) Led to a turnover and fast break layup. That was stupid and frustrating.
Cook. That was a freshman mistake if there ever was one.
 

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Which teammate did bohannon collide with when we were up one under a couple minutes to play (maybe in first OT?) Led to a turnover and fast break layup. That was stupid and frustrating.
Cook. That was a freshman mistake if there ever was one.
bohannon's only turnover in 45 minutes played.
Which is fucking awesome. Just sucks that it came at the worst possible time and was such a bonehead play.
 

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Which teammate did bohannon collide with when we were up one under a couple minutes to play (maybe in first OT?) Led to a turnover and fast break layup. That was stupid and frustrating.
Cook. That was a freshman mistake if there ever was one.
bohannon's only turnover in 45 minutes played.
To bohannon's credit he didn't turn around and tell Cook to GFH. You can tell this team genuinely likes each other and they don't make excuses.

I would have threw a fucking fit at half court and probably given Cook a couple of these.
 
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I should have never read this thread. I am right back to where I was last night.

 

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bohannon's only turnover in 45 minutes played.
To bohannon's credit he didn't turn around and tell Cook to GFH. You can tell this team genuinely likes each other and they don't make excuses.

I would have threw a fucking fit at half court and probably given Cook a couple of these.

Sounds like u are quite the competitor
Thanks NLP. Have you figured out which basket is your own basket in basketball yet? I look forward to your thoughts.
 

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Last night sucked, but that was a hostile environment and we had the game won.

The Big Ten is weak and I cannot wait to see what these boys can do on a neutral court in the BTT.
 
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I hope we get this officiating crew at home. Fuckers.
 

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All the best ways to handle full court press involve throwing it to the corner and holding it there
Let's not be completely retarded about context here. There is breaking the press and there is taking a foul to close out a game.

Ellingson shouldn't have dribbled toward the corner but that is awful fucking nit picky considering the situation.

He did everything else right and the ref couldn't have fucked it up more.

Like I said before, that dumb bitch wanted to call that jump ball and nothing was going to stop him.
 

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All the best ways to handle full court press involve throwing it to the corner and holding it there
Let's not be completely retarded about context here. There is breaking the press and there is taking a foul to close out a game.

Ellingson shouldn't have dribbled toward the corner but that is awful fucking nit picky considering the situation.

He did everything else right and the ref couldn't have fucked it up more.

Like I said before, that dumb bitch wanted to call that jump ball and nothing was going to stop him.
He didn't even dribble it to the corner. Baer threw him the ball, IIRC. If you're going to bitch about anything bitch about Bar putting Brady in a shitty spot. That should make nolook happy though. Two of his least favorite players made that happen!
 

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All the best ways to handle full court press involve throwing it to the corner and holding it there
Let's not be completely retarded about context here. There is breaking the press and there is taking a foul to close out a game.

Ellingson shouldn't have dribbled toward the corner but that is awful fucking nit picky considering the situation.

He did everything else right and the ref couldn't have fucked it up more.

Like I said before, that dumb bitch wanted to call that jump ball and nothing was going to stop him.
He didn't even dribble it to the corner. Baer threw him the ball, IIRC. If you're going to bitch about anything bitch about Bar putting Brady in a shitty spot. That should make nolook happy though. Two of his least favorite players made that happen!
I thought he took one dribble toward the corner then went fetal.
 

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He may have but he was already deep in the corner when he got the ball from Baer. Whatever.
 

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Well, that would be optimal, but unlikely.
I don't believe John Higgins has worked many, if any, Iowa games since the stunt he pulled on Fran at UNI in '11. I think that kind of separation happens, albeit quietly.

And because I'm still pissed, here's the baseline view from a Star Tribune photographer (and then I'm done with this game, probably):
 
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Well, that would be optimal, but unlikely.
I don't believe John Higgins has worked many, if any, Iowa games since the stunt he pulled on Fran at UNI in '11. I think that kind of separation happens, albeit quietly.

And because I'm still pissed, here's the baseline view from a Star Tribune photographer (and then I'm done with this game, probably):
Teddy V hasn't done a regular season Iowa game since the MSU BTT fucking disaster a few years back. He did an exhibition game last year at Carver, but that is it.
 
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What the hell was that out of bounds play Iowa ran with 3.5 seconds left? That was awful.

Did bohannon play the entire second half? I don't know if I like him logging that many minutes.
Yeah I hated that too. The only thing I can think of is Fran called the play when there were 1.9 seconds left and then either they didn't recognize the time change in time or just stayed with it.
 

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Bo Boroski was involved in the 2011 game with Higgins and he does every other one of our games
 
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Such an infuriating loss, I'm pissed every time I think about it. Fucking Pitino had both feet on the court within a yard or so of Ellingson also.
 
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Chris Beaver. What an absolute fuck. Couldn't wait to come in and make that emphatic call and hear the crowd erupt.
 
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Bo Boroski was involved in the 2011 game with Higgins and he does every other one of our games
True, but Higgins is the one who called for a cop to escort Fran off the court. Bo sucked (as usual) but he wasn't being malicious imo.
 
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